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My first time in Latvia, impressions from an American

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Guy from USA 
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#1 | Posted: 26 Sep 2010 16:53 | Edited by: Guy from USA
Let me say first that I married a Latvian girl that I met in the USA (she came to the USA to be a nanny for a rich American family), so I am not interested in other women. I found this website after looking for Latvian stuff on the web.

My impressions - Latvian women are by far the most beautiful women that I have even seen in my life. I now know why my wife said we had to be married before I ever visited Latvia. The guys weren't that attractive, the women are much better looking people. For a country that is so poor it was shocking to me how many people drove expensive cars and everyone dressed like they were straight out of a fashion magazine. If I didn't know how poor Latvia was I would think that everyone was rich there. The food and hotels were very cheap compared to America, but the clothes were 200%-300% more expensive than in America. I now know why my wife's family literally buy 2-3 suitcases of clothes to bring back with them to Latvia everytime that they come to America.

People in Latvia really care alot about how they look and what car they drive, Americans don't care about what other people think as much. I didn't want to speak to my wife in English that much while walking around Old Town Riga, because if people heard me speaking English it always led to beggars coming up and asking me for money. I guess Latvians think that most Americans are rich. The funny thing is two kids that came up and asked me for money were dressed better than I was, that never happened to me before, usually beggars are in rags and look poor.

I really enjoyed my time there and wish it would have been warmer so that we could have gone to Jurmala.

I am open to any questions you may have about my trip or Americans in general.
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#2 | Posted: 28 Sep 2010 11:28 | Edited by: yuta
Guy from USA:
People in Latvia really care alot about how they look and what car they drive

I must say that's a sad fact and there's nothing positive about it. May be it could really work in terms of showing up, but if you show up just with that, and nothing else, it doesn't work.

People in America care a lot of where they work, how they work, what for they work. America is a workers country.

Latvia appears to be losers country. We love to consume, live easily, but we don't like to work a lot. It's a mixture of the worst Russian and Soviet "traditions". What you write about, is a regular consuming.

Actually that's a result of milliards euros debt Latvia has now on.

Guy from USA:
if people heard me speaking English it always led to beggars coming up and asking me for money

That's just another proof of my words.

Anyway, thanks for the story! It's very interesting.

BTW if you found a "nanny" girl you must be a lucky husband! Do you have your own children so far?

That's true, most Latvian women are opposed to family and children, but only few of them really know how to take care of it...
Guy from USA 
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#3 | Posted: 1 Oct 2010 04:29 | Edited by: Guy from USA
We plan to have children next year. She came to the USA barely able to speak English and worked for a rich family, through the EurAupair program. I met her after she had been in the USA for 2 years. I paid for her college/University, and I kept paying for it b/c she was an incredibly hard worker. She is now an accountant and an example of the immigrant mentality that made America great. All she needed was a chance and she made the most of it. She came from nothing just outside of Daugavpils and is now a successful accountant in a financial firm in the USA.

The mindset of Latvia reminded me of what the USA was like 100 years ago, when corruption was everywhere. All democracies start out filled with corruption, some make the leap to law and order(USA) and some never do(Mexico).

A lot of the people in Latvia seemed to be hustlers, always looking for an angle. If the people quit spending so much on their clothes I think the country would be much better off. There seemed to be corruption absolutely everywhere though. Honestly, if I was an attractive Latvian girl I would move to Italy. The Italian men die for tall blondes as there are hardly any of them in Italy. I would definitely leave Latvia though as there are so many other places where you can have a much better future, but you need to remember the longer you wait, the harder it will be.

You are completely right about how Americans are about work. When you meet someone in the USA one of the first questions usually is,"So, what do you do?" What someone's job is in the USA is very important and usually a large part of someone's identity.
Plomb 
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#4 | Posted: 5 Oct 2010 20:43
Wouldn't it sound sad afterall?

I think Latvian women are more opposed to family values. I would never prefer that my wife would be a business woman bolder than me. Man's value is to care about family, and woman's value is to work for a family, not an office.
Guy from USA 
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#5 | Posted: 9 Oct 2010 05:14
A reply like that would have been acceptable to most women in the USA and Western Europe 50 years ago, but not in 2010. Women have the ability to succeed in their careers just like men, it isn't a bad thing for a woman to be successful in their career, it is a good thing that women have been deprived of for thousands of years by men.

You really need to think in more modern terms. The days of a woman only being able to be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen are over in modern societies.

Frankly, a comment like that is shocking, most women have always wanted the same opportunities in life as men have, but apparently there are some women that still want to be treated like 2nd class citizens?
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#6 | Posted: 12 Oct 2010 14:25
Guy from USA:
Women have the ability to succeed in their careers just like men, it isn't a bad thing for a woman to be successful in their career, it is a good thing that women have been deprived of for thousands of years by men.

It seems like you are going to be a woman, not a man, if you think so!

Ok let's remember "woman's rights laws" and "feminism" and we are here. I've thought about it many times and I could conclude that this new modern philosophy leads to the end of days. Let me prove.

From the very ancient times, the family formula was about woman carrying the house and children, and the man hunting and getting the food fighting with other men who have an eye on his family. This formula is given to us by God and I don't see reasons to change it in such small period of time like few thousands years.

It's true, nowadays women think they can do much more, and they do. But now think about the following: what if men would totally disappear from Earth because of that, in some short period of time? Women can may give birth to both men and women, but men can't give birth to anybody. It only means, females may merely live without males, if... what?

Women needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, actually. Modern medicine allows the artificial fertilization. Each year this statistics will grow, because pairs have less and less chances to have "natural" children - this is up to the ecology, business, stress. There is only one step left from the artificial spermatozoon - when they have it, men are no more necessary!

So all those movies about Amazons and other female fantasies are not far from the true.

If such thing happens, there's no secret whom we may call guilty - the men of course! Men will destroy themselves if they will give too much power to women.

A woman should know her place - this is just what I think... it is the natural order.
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#7 | Posted: 13 Oct 2010 14:50
Bro, you have an obstruction theory

I doubt that women will live without one thing - the real, strong, live men's dick. Sorry for being censored.
Guy from USA 
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#8 | Posted: 14 Oct 2010 02:45 | Edited by: Guy from USA
Bro
Bro:
Women needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, actually. Modern medicine allows the artificial fertilization. Each year this statistics will grow, because pairs have less and less chances to have "natural" children - this is up to the ecology, business, stress. There is only one step left from the artificial spermatozoon - when they have it, men are no more necessary!

So all those movies about Amazons and other female fantasies are not far from the true.

If such thing happens, there's no secret whom we may call guilty - the men of course! Men will destroy themselves if they will give too much power to women.

A woman should know her place - this is just what I think... it is the natural order.

My God, there are still people that have beliefs like this???? When you wake up in the morning how long does it take for you to get out of your cave?

I am curious, how educated are you? Did you go to college/university? If so, what was your degree in?
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#9 | Posted: 14 Oct 2010 17:47
I have finished university already it was 10 years ago. My degree is magister of science. Actually, all team behind this website, are higher education professionals. You don't have to doubt on it. We are not students and not little boys or girls.

What you didn't believe, or what you didn't consider as the serious true, doesn't matter that I am wrong. We are just on different waves.

Anyway, I understand your opinion, and still, find it too boring, too unnatural when the woman makes career and earns more than a man, or is "more educated" than his boyfriend or husband. I know there are men which would be quite happy to live with such girl, even on her balance. But for me, this seems a wrong move. My man's role in a family is that I should be a leader. Else I wouldn't need a family at all. I wouldn't call it a family.

I know I am not the only one who thinks such way, don't worry, there are a lot of people who will not give women a power
Guy from USA 
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#10 | Posted: 16 Oct 2010 01:05 | Edited by: Guy from USA
Bro:
I have finished university already it was 10 years ago. My degree is magister of science. Actually, all team behind this website, are higher education professionals. You don't have to doubt on it. We are not students and not little boys or girls.

What you didn't believe, or what you didn't consider as the serious true, doesn't matter that I am wrong. We are just on different waves.

Anyway, I understand your opinion, and still, find it too boring, too unnatural when the woman makes career and earns more than a man, or is "more educated" than his boyfriend or husband. I know there are men which would be quite happy to live with such girl, even on her balance. But for me, this seems a wrong move. My man's role in a family is that I should be a leader. Else I wouldn't need a family at all. I wouldn't call it a family.

I know I am not the only one who thinks such way, don't worry, there are a lot of people who will not give women a power

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion, but attitudes like that are what holds a country back and if attitudes like that are prevalent in Latvia, then I now know why it is such a backwards country and is very far from actually being a modern society. Your attitude would be a minority in a modern country and usually the only men that feel threatened by the success of women are the men that are the most insecure.

Very few men in the USA or Western Europe have attitudes like this today towards women. Men in the West value success they don't feel threatened by it.
Guy from USA 
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#11 | Posted: 16 Oct 2010 16:28
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11493157

This article seems to fit with the last 4-5 responses to this thread, especially regarding Latvian men.
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#12 | Posted: 19 Oct 2010 20:47
I think Guy from the U.S.A. is right, and it's time finally to give women what they deserved for many thousands years - Girls Power! Bro, as you may note, even this forum is related to Latvian girls, not Latvian boys. Recently I've heard on radio, and the article above confirms that, that really, in Latvia there are 8% more women than men, that already makes difficult to find a "proper" partner... I mean, a proper man, who doesn't drink at least too much, who understands how to earn money, not to press his parents shoulders...

Well, the stats show that women die later than men, not just in Latvia - in the whole world... but it's all just because we don't drink alcohol, don't smoke, at least a lot We care about our bodies and souls in much more solid terms than men, that helps too.

But Bro has right - men, you should be aware of that!
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#13 | Posted: 20 Oct 2010 13:14
Guy from USA:
I now know why it is such a backwards country and is very far from actually being a modern society

This is not only the reason why you may call Latvia a "backwards" country. It's is "backwards" because we actually do not produce anything, and we live in a society which is split by nationalism ideas. We live in houses which were build in USSR 30-40 years ago; there were attempts to build new houses, but they appeared even worst than older. We don't have nice and wide ROADS like in USA, we have terrific level of driving education. And even speaking about "educated women" - who do you think they are? Economists, lawyers, sociologists... there are no professions which would really make this country independant. They are professions which allow just more bureaucracy, swapping papers, making nice talking, making nice PR. Nothing really productive.

*Real* men should not be actually excited by that! *Real* men are hunters, they are producers, they make wars, wars make technologies, technologies make evolution. Women are not like this.

If you feel you are an educated person, let's take one of the famous Richard D. Lamm's speeches, which is dated even by 2004. Richard D. Lamm, a democrat, served as governor of Colorado for 12 years from 1975 to 1987.

The most important in his speech is this:

Richard D. Lamm:
History shows, in my opinion, that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

Do you have to say something against?

But in Latvia, we deal with exactly that. The conflict and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures.

It's not just about men and women, pal...
Guy from USA 
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#14 | Posted: 21 Oct 2010 01:28 | Edited by: Guy from USA
You have finally found something we agree on Bro, the BIGGEST problem Latvia has is the schism in the society between Russians and Latvians. Latvians seem to have a deep hatred for the Russians that live amongst them and the Russians that live there don't seem interested in becoming Latvians. Until that huge problem is solved, Latvia will have a hard time progressing. In the USA, we fought a civil war to settle the differences between states. The Russians living in Latvia need to embrace Latvia and make it their country, but they don't seem to want to do that. Good luck solving that problem.
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